During a segment of The Five, co-host Jessica Tarlov suggested that former President Donald Trump was avoiding the release of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein. She claimed that the Trump administration was trying to shift focus by declassifying older intelligence documents connected to the Obama administration and the Russia investigation.

Tarlov pointed to bipartisan findings, particularly by Republican Senator Marco Rubio, that confirmed Russian interference intended to harm Hillary Clinton and help Trump in 2016. She cited reports and statements from figures like Barack Obama and Tulsi Gabbard to argue that an influence campaign occurred, though no voting infrastructure was hacked.

Gutfeld immediately pushed back, accusing Tarlov of parroting Democratic talking points. He insisted that the intelligence community originally concluded that Russia had little impact, and that Obama manipulated the narrative by directing John Brennan to fabricate a more damning storyline against Trump.

When Tarlov questioned why Special Counsel John Durham took limited action, Gutfeld responded with frustration, claiming the media and Democrats pushed a false collusion narrative for years. He accused the left of deflecting from their own issues, particularly Biden’s mental state, and wanting to “move on” now that truth is emerging.

The debate escalated when Epstein’s name resurfaced. Tarlov alleged that the administration avoided transparency, while Gutfeld claimed the right had shown more consistent concern over Epstein’s crimes, particularly sex trafficking, than Democrats had.

In closing, Gutfeld accused Tarlov of “selective outrage” and argued that conservatives could handle multiple scandals at once, unlike their political opponents.